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KartMaster
05-13-2011, 09:52 PM
Hello everyone. I just figured I'd make an account here since I love KartRider. I've been super busy lately but I wanted to get your opinions on something I started. It's only R&D right now. But hopefully it will become something someday. I'd love it if someone could post something useful in addition to what I have.

Now a little bit about me. I'm a programming\network student. I've done a little bit of reverse engineering and have learned enough to get me by. Feel free to post questions here for me or email me at kartmaster@hushmail.com (http://kartextreme.net/forum/kartmaster@hushmail.com)

R&D Here:
http://www.kryptodev.com/showthread.php?tid=12704 (http://www.kryptodev.com/showthread.php?tid=12704)
(http://www.kryptodev.com/showthread.php?tid=12704)

Kanjo
05-14-2011, 09:24 AM
Does "Themida" mean anything to you?

Just to let you know, the one person that *could* help you on this forum - won't. Unfortunately he is scared of what Nexon *could* do to him. ;(

Good luck though

Ray Koopa
05-14-2011, 10:13 AM
if i see progress, his inbox will be happy.
currently theres nothing special

Kanjo
05-14-2011, 03:45 PM
if i see progress, his inbox will be happy.
currently theres nothing special

<3 we can hope, if I had the patience i'd be looking at learning C++ myself unfortunately I don't even have the patience to finish the 2 Java books I have ;-(

Ray Koopa
05-15-2011, 02:55 AM
as if c++ would be everything you'd need for that

Kanjo
05-15-2011, 03:51 AM
For client and data i.e Karts & tracks (implementing foreign stuff into NAKR client).

I'm assuming the actual server would need MySQL?

Ray Koopa
05-16-2011, 06:37 AM
Hello buddy, still there? Our developer didn't appear since some time.

Kanjo
05-16-2011, 09:03 AM
Hello buddy, still there? Our developer didn't appear since some time.

Commited suicide when he saw how much work there was to do! :shifty:

DaFlameking
05-16-2011, 10:23 AM
Unfortunate :/ Can't deny that there is a lot of dedication though of people trying to pull this game out the ashes.

OhmightyFrosty
05-17-2011, 02:40 AM
i know it will happen. i may not be able to help, myself. but i can sure as hell wait.

Kanjo
05-17-2011, 03:25 AM
Just read through the post you have at the other forum, would it not make sense to look at Russian Kartrider seeing as it's closer to what NAKR was when it closed down compared to PK & KKR ?

Ray Koopa
05-17-2011, 07:38 AM
...why not taking NAKR with dumb GameGuard at all?

LOLxArcSaber
05-17-2011, 08:05 PM
if i see progress, his inbox will be happy.
currently theres nothing special
:thumb:________

Ray Koopa
05-18-2011, 07:31 AM
Skipping over the post on the other thread before and reading it now more carefully again, I noticed you didn't get rid of GameGuard completely.

Out there are still those KartDebug-DLLs for NAKR which were hosted on GameCheetah before seckson shizzled it up and then on b0ts.org which is now down too. They removed GameBastard completely and you may contact the developer of that for help. You may find the injection DLLs here or there if u wanna use them.
Also, laohtc had several nice PopKart "tools" to remove GameGuard on that client shortly before fuckson decided to use FuckShield in 2009.

/*Wow my bad word filter goes wild*/

Kanjo
05-18-2011, 08:25 AM
Skipping over the post on the other thread before and reading it now more carefully again, I noticed you didn't get rid of GameGuard completely.

Out there are still those KartDebug-DLLs for NAKR which were hosted on GameCheetah before seckson shizzled it up and then on b0ts.org which is now down too. They removed GameBastard completely and you may contact the developer of that for help. You may find the injection DLLs here or there if u wanna use them.
Also, laohtc had several nice PopKart "tools" to remove GameGuard on that client shortly before fuckson decided to use FuckShield in 2009.

/*Wow my bad word filter goes wild*/

Lol, too much swearing Mr Buddies.. Though it's good to see you pointing someone in the right direct :clap:

Also, the way he's "disabling" GG is similar to how I used to "hack" on FlyFF YEARS ago... Which works (myself and 3 friends all got to level 90+ in a few hours on FlyFF using some "hack" which literally killed everything you could see in your playing area in a few hits, all you saw was 20000's over the NPC over and over until they died lmao).

Anyway, instead of babbling on ^_^ I agree with HBuddies as to just completely removing GameGuard, afterall; you're not going to be using it AT ALL once you've made YOUR server. ;)

Ray Koopa
05-18-2011, 11:12 AM
...and because it speeds up the loading process of KartRider by 300%. :innocent::vroom:
Well actually CSharp (funny nick though) seems to be of more help for him there since he already told him the most important stuff.

Kanjo
05-18-2011, 03:35 PM
I'm surprised popkart never had a pserver

Ray Koopa
05-19-2011, 03:01 AM
What makes you so sure about that :clown:

Kanjo
05-19-2011, 08:19 AM
What makes you so sure about that :clown:

:o I searched so much for documentation on private servers in multiple languages and failed to find anything!

In that case, I'm surprised no one had found one, then used it as a base for an English server...

Ray Koopa
05-19-2011, 08:44 AM
*Le searching wrong places*

Kanjo
05-19-2011, 09:43 AM
*Le searching wrong places*

Lol, obviously :P

Jacky1492
05-19-2011, 04:31 PM
What I read:

Bla bla bla KartRider bla bla Server bla bla wrong places bla bla bla bla bla bla.

So... What the fuck does this mean?

Ray Koopa
05-20-2011, 01:20 PM
What the fuck are you trying to get in your head?

Kanjo
05-22-2011, 05:28 AM
Why do you swear so much?

Ray Koopa
05-22-2011, 05:52 AM
I just don't like luxury language. At least the todays interwebz aren't worth that.

jjroberts
05-22-2011, 01:08 PM
what i'm comprehending here is that a public private server may be happening, yes?

Ray Koopa
05-22-2011, 01:57 PM
public private

you sir, made my day.

jjroberts
05-22-2011, 07:50 PM
its what i try to do bud, and i didn't even notice that i made an oxymoron there.

KartMaster
05-23-2011, 12:36 AM
what i'm comprehending here is that a public private server may be happening, yes?

That's the plan. I'm just removing gameguard and studying the packet encryption. Then I'll move onto coding. As soon as I learn more about the packet system I'm letting everyone know.

Kanjo
05-23-2011, 07:31 AM
The idea of using Russian Kart Rider is great, definitely the closest client to NAKR.

OhmightyFrosty
05-23-2011, 09:43 AM
oooohhh okay i think i understand this whole gameguard thing.

if someone's going to make a server, why keep something in their client without it ever being used? is that whats basically happening?

Kanjo
05-23-2011, 10:21 AM
oooohhh okay i think i understand this whole gameguard thing.

if someone's going to make a server, why keep something in their client without it ever being used? is that whats basically happening?

Yes, there is no need for GG.. Though depending on how the populated the server got, there might well be a need for some kind of anti-cheat program.

That being said, an actual private server is a long way off.

OhmightyFrosty
05-23-2011, 08:44 PM
ohai, thank you for clarifying my "AH FUCKING HA!" moment.

jjroberts
05-23-2011, 11:08 PM
just can't wait for the hackrider but not hackrider hackrider to come out

ENGLISH WILL RULE THE TEXT AND STRINGBUILDERS!

Ray Koopa
05-24-2011, 06:06 AM
just can't wait for the hackrider but not hackrider hackrider to come out

ENGLISH WILL RULE THE TEXT AND STRINGBUILDERS!
#sb(stringBuildersHowDoTheyWork)

Jacky1492
05-25-2011, 10:03 PM
Fucking String Builders, HOW DO THEY WORK?

If you don't know the meme, it means you have more of a life than I have. Good Job, thats not really saying something.

오키스모키
05-26-2011, 03:54 AM
Disabling gameguard/hackshield is easy as fuck if you are trying to get the client to connect to a private server. You'd have to unpack the client anyway to have any hope of learning the packet encryption algorithm.

Also yes there was a popkart private server, but that was a long time ago and I'm pretty sure it's not being maintained/updated any more.

Ray Koopa
05-26-2011, 06:48 AM
Fucking String Builders, HOW DO THEY WORK?

If you don't know the meme, it means you have more of a life than I have. Good Job, thats not really saying something.

#sb(NoLife)

Kanjo
05-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Disabling gameguard/hackshield is easy as fuck if you are trying to get the client to connect to a private server. You'd have to unpack the client anyway to have any hope of learning the packet encryption algorithm.

Also yes there was a popkart private server, but that was a long time ago and I'm pretty sure it's not being maintained/updated any more.

I take it the source was never released?

Ray Koopa
05-26-2011, 04:16 PM
:rofl: compared your extractions
http://img.webme.com/pic/d/dr-chat/gnihihi.png
:vroom:

오키스모키
06-05-2011, 10:19 PM
I take it the source was never released?
It wasn't, but it wouldn't be relevant now anyway.

Ray Koopa
06-06-2011, 03:55 AM
Why shouldn't it be relevant for learning purposes?

Kanjo
06-06-2011, 07:27 AM
Why shouldn't it be relevant for learning purposes?

Exactly, any working server for KartRider would be relevant regardless of how old it was, even if you couldn't use any code from said server it would still help in knowing how they went about making it work etc..

오키스모키
06-07-2011, 05:58 AM
Why shouldn't it be relevant for learning purposes?
With all the shit you act like you know, one would think you would know that the game has changed so drastically since then. Nexon completely changed their packet structure with the "Kartrider Revolution" update, and changed nearly everything about the game. Not to mention the fact that kartrider doesn't even use gameguard any more.

Ray Koopa
06-07-2011, 08:56 AM
And who thinks he MUST built on the newest clients, shorthought?

오키스모키
06-08-2011, 05:41 PM
And who thinks he MUST built on the newest clients, shorthought?
Why would you want to make a private server for a shitty old version? The one that was released before was when popkart only had a max of G3 karts.

Ray Koopa
06-09-2011, 10:40 AM
Work hard and you can configure the ingame stuff.

xkameron
06-15-2011, 02:42 AM
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Ray Koopa
06-15-2011, 03:01 AM
idiot
_______

Kanjo
06-15-2011, 07:20 AM
I take it he has given up on the Server then.

Ray Koopa
06-15-2011, 09:57 AM
I meant xkameron though